White nationalist broadcaster Stew Peters floated a new conspiracy theory about the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas in an episode of his Rumble show. During an interview with Matt Wallace, a crypto-promoting Elon Musk fanboy, Peters declared that Hamas’ Oct. 7 massacre of 1,400 Israelis was a false flag attack.

Peters said that the “media, and all of the people that control them” told people that “Israel has one of the most impenetrable borders of any country that has ever existed.” Referring to Hamas as “low-IQ goat herders,” he asked Matt Wallace to “help me process” how the attack happened.

Wallace is an Internet personality whose posts on X (formerly Twitter) are a mélange of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and right-wing engagement bait. He has amassed 1.4 million followers on the platform and interacted with the owner, Elon Musk, several times — most recently on Nov. 14, 2023.

Wallace, who does not appear to have any expertise relevant to the conflict in Gaza, told Peters that “all of the evidence that I have seen regarding this points to the fact that it was either extreme incompetence or, perhaps, the Israeli government may have even known it was going to happen.”

Pushing back on this view, Peters asked if the Israeli government “could’ve actually planned it” as opposing to having “foreknowledge” of the attack and letting it happen, “like we know what happened on 9/11 here.”

“Do you think that it’s possible that the Israeli government actually helped to coordinate, plan, perpetuate, and carry out this attack against its own citizens — allegedly by ‘Hamas’?” he asked.

“Now, if you look throughout history you’ll see many examples — I’m sure you’re familiar with all of them — of governments doing evil things,” Wallace replied. “Many of which are false flags. Many of which are trying to start things, trying to do things they perceive to be in their own interests as a government.”

Peters interrupted to once again ask if “this could’ve been a false flag.” Wallace said he didn’t know, and that he hopes it isn’t true, but that the “more plausible theory” is that they “could’ve known it was happening and not stopped it.”

Peters disagreed, saying that it’s “far more likely that the demonically-possessed, evil Israeli government planned this and carried it out against its own people.” He then went on an antisemitic rant about Israeli control of American politics and media.

“I see what they’re doing around the planet. I see what’s happening in our country,” he said. “I see the people that are in the cabinet of this fraudulently-elected, pedophilic, rogue regime. I see the people that are in our media. I see the people that are in Hollywood. I see the people that are on our TV and on our broadcast channels, every day.

“I see the all-out, full-fledged open warfare that’s been declared against American people by its own government,” Peters continued. “And then I look to see who’s pulling the strings, and guess what? They’re all in Israel!”