On the Aug. 4, 2023 episode of his Rumble show Nightly Offensive, ex-BlazeTV host Elijah Schaffer interviewed Australian Neo-Nazi Joel Davis. During the show, that was partially livestreamed to YouTube, Davis condemned interracial marriage, spread antisemitic conspiracy theories, and used racial slurs.

Schaffer, who was fired from BlazeTV last year amid allegations that he drunkenly groped a colleague, referred to the Jan. 6 insurrection as “the Holocaust II.” “Jan. 6 was the second Holocaust, right? It’s the second event that you have to remember in modern history — more than 9/11. It was worse than 9/11, in fact,” Schaffer said.

He also joked that “thousands of people” were killed on Jan. 6.

Davis criticized people who have non-procreative sex, and said, in crude terms, that white people should have more children for the sake of their race. “You should have this urge to — I just want to fill [one’s wife] up with as many young, white, Aryan babies and just pump ’em out to own ZOG,” he said.

“ZOG” stands for “Zionist Occupied Government” and refers to the white supremacist conspiracy that Jewish people control the U.S. government.

“ZOG doesn’t want you to have more babies. ZOG wants you to pull out,” Davis continued. “Every time you nut in your wife, ZOG takes an L. Satan takes an L. Like, Jesus and Hitler smile down at you every time you nut in your wife. And the Jew’s like, ‘Oh no, not again. We’re trying to genocide these people.'”

Schaffer reacted by laughing at Davis’ remarks.

Davis also repeated the conspiracy theory that Jewish people “spread pornography in our society intentionally as a political weapon.” He also said that any white person who is dating a non-white person should leave them, because “you’re literally destroying your bloodline.”

Schaffer pushed back slightly on Davis’ comments on interracial marriage, telling the Neo-Nazi that, in the hierarchy of attributes he looks for in a partner, he values faith in God the most. Schaffer added that he also “only wanted to marry a white girl” and that racial preferences are “natural.”

In response to Schaffer’s question about where he would place “race” in such a hierarchy, Davis replied that it would be at the top. Davis said that if one’s wife is “of your tribe, then your child will be of your tribe.” He then said that “our tribe is under attack.”

“And so, if you are blending with these other races, you are complicit in white genocide,” Davis said.

The white supremacist idea of “race suicide” — the belief that the white race could die out — is a century old. In his 1916 book The Passing of the Great Race, racist and eugenicist Madison Grant proclaimed the superiority of the “Nordic” race, but warned that miscegenation and immigration would lead to its demise.

This belief fueled anti-miscegenation laws, immigration restrictions, and forced sterilizations.

It was also echoed in the writings of white nationalist terrorist David Lane, who penned his “White Genocide Manifesto” in prison. In it, Lane warned of a conspiracy to “exterminate the White race” and called for the creation of “exclusive White homelands.” Modern white supremacists embraced this “white genocide” conspiracy theory.

Davis also compared attraction to non-white people to heroin addiction or eating junk food.

In response, Schaffer reiterated that “I just don’t hold so strongly to the notion that we should discourage people — or discourage them at this point in our culture, in our history — from getting married to somebody just because they’re not white, if they’re a white person.” But he said that “we should be encouraging white people to not let their race die out.”

Later in the discussion Davis asked Schaffer if he could use the N-word. Schaffer said that Davis is allowed to on Rumble but that he personally wouldn’t do it.

Davis then said, “When I see a white woman with a mulatto child, usually their boyfriend isn’t there anymore, she’s basically a nigger to me. Because it’s like, I’m here to advocate for white people. And you have now mixed your bloodline with a totally different race. So you’re no longer part of our tribe.”