It’s no secret that white supremacist Christopher Cantwell is in a lot of legal trouble. Currently the Radical Agenda host is awaiting trial on two charges of illegal use of gas for allegedly pepper spraying anti-racist counterprotesters during a torchlight march last August. He was arrested once again this year for public intoxication and ordered to wear an alcohol monitoring bracelet — in addition to his GPS monitor.

And that’s not all. Cantwell is also a defendant in a high-stakes civil rights lawsuit brought by Charlottesville residents over last year’s “Unite the Right” rally. Of the roughly two dozen defendants in Sines v. Kessler, only Daily Shoah host Mike “Enoch” Peinovich was dismissed from the suit. This means that Cantwell and the rest of his compatriots will have to undergo a lengthy and expensive discovery process.

This probably explains why Cantwell is seeking a (non-Jewish) bankruptcy attorney in his native New Hampshire:

You might think that Cantwell would be doing everything he could to prepare for these costly legal battles. You might, but you’d be wrong. Instead he’s spending his free time (such as it is) continuing to broadcast his Radical Agenda show and appearing on other similarly racist podcasts, like Good Morning Auschwitz.

The show is a riff on the movie Good Morning Vietnam with an anti-Semitic twist, and is hosted by Jett and Hardmous, the latter of whom was unmasked by One People’s Project as a Missouri resident who enjoys sending death threats on social media. Together, Jett and Hardmous make forced-sounding jokes about broadcasting from a concentration camp and working in a pizza parlor owned by Mussolini.

Their interview with Cantwell even began with the sound effect of someone ascending the metal staircase of a guard tower.

The interview touched on a wide variety of topics, including Cantwell’s radicalization and last year’s rally in Charlottesville. In discussing how he gradually became red-pilled on race, Cantwell said he was influenced by videos on race and IQ by Stefan Molyneux as well as Charles Murray’s 1994 book The Bell Curve, which he read while he was in jail and which he intends to sell through his website.

“What you find out,” Cantwell explained, “is when you control for IQ, all these disparities of outcome with socioeconomic status and every other stupid ass excuse that they come up with for people goes away. And IQ is exactly what’s causing the problems in the black community, and it’s undeniable scientifically.”

Jett went on a tangent about Jean-Philippe Rushton, another academic racist, who was obsessed with the size of black men’s penises. (At a Toronto shopping mall Rushton paid customers to answer questions about their sexual habits, which is definitely a normal thing to do.) Jett explained to Cantwell and Hardmous that Rushton believed black people have “compressed brain[s]” and “crushed” neurons, resulting in lower IQs.

Mid-interview they took a short break, during which they played the song “Slave Runaway/Beat Rodney Down” by the short-lived white power grindcore band Vaginal Jesus — producers of such lyrically complex tunes as “Hooknose” and “Coon Bashin’.” The song itself is about the 1992 Rodney King beating, and band member Seth Putnam (of Anal Cunt fame) died of a heart attack in 2011. Hey, I guess Neo-Nazi boomers need music too.

Finally they switched to the subject of Charlottesville, with Cantwell saying that he couldn’t exactly blame President Trump for claiming there was violence on “many sides” during “Unite the Right.” Evidently Cantwell himself viewed white supremacists engaging in wanton violence — at least after the fact, anyway.

“I’ll give you one example where I did see somebody do something that I thought was inappropriate,” Cantwell said. That example was Dennis Mothersbaugh, an Indiana man who was sentenced to 360 days in jail with 120 days suspended for assaulting a pair of counterprotesters. Cantwell admitted this was not self-defense, but found the situation to be humorous.

He called Mothersbaugh punching a “landwhale” in the face “one of the funniest videos I saw” from the rally. He said that after he was released from jail he hadn’t yet seen a single video from “Unite the Right,” and decided to watch footage of Mothersbaugh because the two had shared a cell block. Cantwell said the video showed Mothersbaugh approach “some fat girl” who called him a racist, only for him to punch her “dead in her fuckin’ nose.”

All three of them laughed at the thought of this unnamed woman being assaulted, which probably isn’t a smart move for Cantwell especially in light of the Sines vs. Kessler lawsuit, where attorneys for the plaintiffs are scouring social media accounts to look for examples of the defendants glorifying violence at their rallies. At a certain point, Cantwell might have to learn the hard way that, sometimes, silence is golden.