David Duke, fresh off the recent controversy of labeling Donald Trump’s critics “Jewish extremists,” sat down with “Jazzhands McFeels” of the alt-right podcast Fash the Nation. (“Fash” being shorthand for “fascist.”)

McFeels, who also goes by the pseudonym “Paul Allen,” answered Duke’s questions about alt-right memes and the so-called “troll army” known for, among other things, terrorizing a journalist who wrote a GQ article that Melania Trump thought was unfavorable.

First, Duke had to reiterate that the “Jewish media” is actively trying to stop Donald Trump against the peoples’ wishes.

Indeed, any bad press relating to Trump is merely indicative of “this Jewish power, this control that’s ruling over us.” Duke further asserted that the media is making “millions of Americans realize” that “these Jewish elements” are “only interested in one thing, and that’s Jewish supremacism, Jewish domination, [and] the interest of the Jewish people.”

“Absolutely. And they finally start to realize kind of what’s behind the curtain,” McFeels replied:

I mean, we’ve talked about this ad infinitum on our show, is when you start looking into these organizations inside the Beltway, these Republican — supposedly conservative — organizations like the Manhattan Institute and some other ones. They say they’re all for fiscal responsibility and right-wing ideals, but when you dig past and start looking at the list of names, and then you cross-reference these groups and see that they’re all kind of … it’s very incestuous, and it’s like, so where are the actual Republicans here? I’m kinda confused. Where are the good ole boys? The people that I expect to be leading the party? They’re Jewish internationalists, they’re not Republicans.

Duke began asking McFeels about his and the larger alt-right movement’s use of memes. “We’ve been…some of the older people have had to be kinda dragged by the nose into this…trying to understand what’s happening,” he said. “But we’re learning now that there’s a new approach that young people are coming up with, and it’s really working.”

McFeels then explained that he and the rest of the alt-right use memes to get their point across because, on the Internet, people are accustomed to “digest[ing] their information in small, 140 character chunks,” and memes are merely “visual representations” of this information.

“It’s hard-hitting, it has a major effect, it doesn’t even have to be something represented on a computer screen, it can be…a meme can be something like I just said, you know, [Jews’] names echo,” he explained.

“You know, when the name is echoing or you put the brackets around the name, you don’t even have to say ‘Jewish,’ you know what it means.”

When Duke questioned McFeels about the use of a “troll army,” McFeels responded that “you can think of a troll army as a large force that is out there” that is “showing a presence that there is opposition to what is being said.” This can “take a variety of forms” such as written rebuttals, mockery, and the use of memes in an effort to counter the “fraudulent message coming from the left and the controlled opposition on the so-called right.”

“Well what’s amazing — and this has always been in the control of the Jewish-controlled media; and they’ve run movies which totally are scathing toward us; they exaggerate horribly; they basically, you know, even suggest even killing us, I mean like Jamie Foxx, you know, the hero of Django — the Jewish production by the Weinstein brothers — says kill white people and get paid for it,” Duke complained. “And the Daily Show has been doing this vicious mocking of us for years.”

Young people, he insisted, however, are waking up to what’s really going on, and are no longer concerned with being labelled “racist” or “sexist” or “homophobic.” Indeed, Jazzhands McFeels stated that regardless of who the eventual GOP nominee ended up being, he or she would have been tarred as a bigot.

“So, I think when you disarm and you make it so…they can’t call you those names anymore. It’s like, you know, someone says ‘You’re a racist.’ Well, yeah, I think people are different, what’s your point here?”

Finally, Duke complimented the alt-right on what he sees as the movement’s attempt to restore a sense of masculinity to young, white men, and asked McFeels to explain the “cuckservative” meme for his listeners. The term, which originated in white nationalist circles last year, is an epithet used against mainstream conservatives who are seen to have “sold out” their country, their culture, and, most importantly, their race.

McFeels gives the example of House Speaker Paul Ryan as a classic example of a “cuckservative” who “is going to, you know, pro-immigration secret conferences in Chicago and things like that.” People like Paul Ryan, he asserted, “consistently are doing things that are not in the best interest of Americans, and American culture, and things such as that.”